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C933103 ( talk ) 19:02, (UTC) For what its worth, C933103 is bitcoin companies invest correct that It is possible to use primary source as reliable source for information about each specific fork, primary sources cannot signify notability but they can be used as reliable source. I assume a "rag" implies that the source isn't usable but I don't know what it means. 4 is being used solely to source the block height the currency was forked at, and so is a perfectly valid source for this according to wikipedia policy. That said we do also have to follow sourcing guidelines. (it looks pretty much anonymous) If the person publishing the information was known, and if the person stated something like "I am the best writer in the world we could surely use such a text as confirming. Jej zastánci argumentuj hlavn dvma vlastnostmi bitcoinu: vznikne jich jen pedem dané mnostv, konkrétn 21 milion. But I'm glad we agree that this source can be used for this case, despite being self-published. You should be discussing this with me if you're going to take part in reversions of work I've made a solid case for being well-sourced. Org faq page " Surely you're not trying to tell me that self-published sources can only be used for articles talking about the actual page of the website being sourced, right? For example: 1 Preceding unsigned comment added by Creativecuriosity ( talk contribs ) 07:56, (UTC) congratulations, you have cleaned up the article so much it is practically useless. Also remember that it is not compulsory for the affiliates to be an active investor in order to get their payments. You have made wikipedia less useful.
Besides, how do you know looking at a particular chart on an exchange that it has to do with a particular fork of bitcoin? This isn't a valuable list page for any reader and given that this is the top page on Google for 'bitcoin forks' 'bitcoin forks list' displaying three forks when there are articles and websites listing and pointing to more. Please use independent reliable secondary sources. The removal of the word "list" would suggest it is an article, of which is not. It is now useless. Preceding unsigned comment added by MSAlter ( talk contribs ) 17:11, (UTC) What about Jimmy Song as a reliable source? Bitcoin a penenka aneb Jak zat. Nákup bitcoinu, teoreticky nejjednodu variantou je se domluvit s konkrétnm dritelem bitcoin, a vám na nov vygenerovanou adresu kryptomnu pole, samozejm za adekvátn kompenzaci. List This article has been rated as List-Class on the project's quality scale. You first added a bunch of redlinks to my edit, and then you delete my entire edit for the reason of "rmv redlinks per convention". Polete omylem transakci na patnou adresu?
As a software engineer and a logical thinker I grasp the points, but if followed, would result in NO information ever being published, because who wrote what first, eh? Jeden satoshi pedstavuje stomiliontinu bitcoinu. What I don't see is any substantiation to your opinion. Companies which provide these type of investment opportunities have to comply with the laws laid down by regulatory authorities which are very strict. As to the requirement that the reliability of the text must be provable - consult WP:IRS#Definition of a source. Fresheneesz ( talk ) 17:52, 19 November 2018 (UTC) And none of the removed stuff was "sourced" in the way it should be - it was all a WP:linkfarm and the same standard that applies to other crypto/block chain articles applies here. and "Are you a Bitcoin fork? Kdo tedy neztrat pstupové kle ke svm bitcoinm, ml by k nim mt pstup hypoteticky do konce svého ivota. I hear that you disagree that these sources are reliable. Retimuko ( talk ) 19:44, (UTC) The info on whether a coin red coin bitcoin talk is bitcoin fork can come from primary source after the verification that the fork meet certain inclusion criteria via third party source Exchanges have financial interest involved. I have even bookmarked a historical version of the article for my future reference. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
Retimuko ( talk ) 19:12, (UTC) Wait what? Otherwise we will have to get rid of almost the whole thing. Spolehlivj cestou je nákup bitcoin ve speciálnm automatu, kterch jsou v esku zhruba dv destky. I clicked it and found exactly what I was looking for: a complete list of all the forks that have occurred, with the dates they happened. No exchange or coinmarketcap is a suitable source. I included citations from numerous sources. Jak ho zskat, jak se s nm plat, k emu je vbec dobr? Contents Differentiate software forks from blockchain forks? This article is supported by WikiProject Computer Security (marked as Low-importance ). Include punctuation and upper and lower cases. Retimuko ( talk ) 03:59, 30 December 2017 (UTC) New user here, what specifically is a 'reliable secondary source' in the crypto space? Simply pasting links to wikipedia policy and essays is not justification for removal of content.
Only English comments will be allowed. Bitcoin koncem roku 2017 proniknul do irho povdom a jeho zastánci tvrd, e má potenciál stát se novm masovm platebnm prostedkem. Fresheneesz ( talk ) 03:48, 28 November 2018 (UTC) Fresheneesz References @ Fresheneesz : I noted that you did red coin bitcoin talk an ANI here 3 about this thread and another editor closed it as ANI is not a venue for content disputes. Druhm argumentem je nezmnitelnost daj v blockchainu, decentralizované etn knihy pro bitcoin. Dear colleagues, we must do something about.
Pravou identitu tvrce bitcoinu dosud nikdo nezná. Usernamekiran (talk) 21:21, 2 February 2018 (UTC) Comment The article Bitcoin scalability problem goes over bitcoin forks in greater detail, and I think it might be redundant to create a second page that also covered forks. Low-importance on the project's importance scale. The content is based on self-published web sites of the forks only. Zajmavost je, e ostravsk tanen podnik Hell se chlub, e akcepujte hned deset rznch kryptomn najednou. Promote your fork by having some major reputable news outlet publishing an article about it first, so it can be cited here. If a coin is listed there, it is because it is being traded somewhere. List-Class on the quality scale. Regarding the blog by Jimmy Song on Medium, the rules don't say such sources are fine, but "largely not acceptable " may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert" and suggest to "exercise caution when using such sources". Na Facebooku ve skupinách vnovanm bitcoinu nabz tyto sluby ada uivatel, je teba red coin bitcoin talk ale brát v potaz i riziko podvod. Primefac ( talk ) 19:42, 27 November 2018 (UTC) I agree with that.
I propose a new section for the forks that red coin bitcoin talk have been announced but are not yet active. Org, seznam vak nen vyerpávajc a stoprocentn. We can't just say "this fork exists ref fork's website /ref ". So using his blog is perfectly acceptable as a source on wikipedia. Of course anyone can create a fork and a website about the fork and thus it is rather open-ended and as such in long term it would need to find a way to filter out what. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. There is no article about CoinMarketCap.
They have thousands of tokens listed btw Jtbobwaysf ( talk ) 06:44, (UTC) C933103 "While in some cases exchanges could have relations with particular forks, the problem can be purged by excluding these sources on a fork-by-fork basis" Exchanges have. C933103 ( talk ) 06:22, (UTC)- Relisting. Jtbobwaysf ( talk ) 18:36, 26 November 2018 (UTC) You're right, there's nothing wrong with including non-linked articles in lists. Primefac ( talk ) 11:13, 19 November 2018 (UTC) Courtesy ping to Praxidicae whose original edit kicked this all off. Nejvraznjm pkladem celého odvtv je pak bitcoin, z nho se red coin bitcoin talk stal de facto symbol digitálnch. Navc viceguvernér NB Mojmr Hampl ji dve uvedl, e eské regulan ady zastávaj postoj ve stylu "nesnait se ani alternativn mny ani blokovat, ani jim umle nepomáhat a neudlovat privilegia.".
This article is supported by WikiProject Software (marked as Low-importance ). I did not revert any of your insertions of unreliable sources into the article yet. Bitcoin a jeho historie, ten vznikl v noru 2009, jeho tvrcem je entita s názvem Satoshi Nakamoto. Coin Stream Limited ( m ) red coin bitcoin talk is supposedly a professional wealth management company which mainly focuses on cryptocurrency trading and mining. Again, Jimmy Song is independent of the people that run the currency in question, so I'm a little confused why you would claim this isn't an independent source. Please justify your edit, with specifics from WP:redlink and WP:wtaf if there are any. BillyMiles ( talk ) 16:01, (UTC) I don't think. This whole argument above is pretty absurd in my opinion because no one even tried to add good sources. Substantiate your claim for once. Fresheneesz ( talk ) 06:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC) Well,. You've passed up one opportunity to identify specifics about why your removed my content. I know there are too many sources. Retimuko ( talk ) 23:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC) A closer look showed that only two(!) have Wikipedia pages (Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Gold and the rest are completely unsourced.
For example, what's wrong with this addition: Bitcoin Clashic : Forked at Block 478558, 1 2 3 For each 1 BTC you get 1 bchc / BCL. Nemus spoléhat na centráln autoritu, která by vekerá data drela pod svou poklikou a v ppad jejho red coin bitcoin talk bankrotu, promn i kompromitaci by o n mohla pijt. Red Flags, if you have visited their website then you would have seen the pictures of the alleged team members of this firm. C933103 ( talk ) 06:12, (UTC) We are arguing in circles. Is this something you consider not notable or sourced well enough? Fresheneesz ( talk ) 07:49, 21 November 2018 (UTC) What about this edit: Bitcoin Diamond: Forked at Block, 24 November 2017.
Instead it uses a new blockchain which makes use of the genuine hybrid fork method. Zastánci ale tvrd, e situace se zlep s postupnm rozenm této digitáln valuty. At this point, is there such a thing as an unbiased source of information in the space - period(sadly)? Basically anyone who has an online platform which gets traffic frequently can choose to promote them and get paid for their time and efforts. Kdo by ho ale zadal pli nzk a platba se nepotvrdila po dlouhé dny, nemus propadat panice. Coin Stream Limited Review Conclusion, coin Stream Limited is undoubtedly a ponzi scheme which might collapse anytime and there is no way to determine when it is going to happen. If you are applying the sourcing rules correctly and it has led to this outcome, then there is something wrong with those rules or the rules should be ignored in this case. Ladislav Mecir ( talk ) 07:49, 20 November 2018 (UTC) Actually, yes, if you'd like to be part of consensus, you need to offer reasons. They hold the exact amount (multiplied.5) of coins at the same adresses as the source Bitcoin from the 2nd November.
Ad, we searched the internet to see if we can find any information but apparently there isnt any which means the images featured are just stock photos. It is you who's turn it is now to achieve consensus with your edits. Not perfect to signify notability of an article, but I personally believe that should be enough for an entry in a list class article. Fresheneesz ( talk ) 00:42, red coin bitcoin talk 19 November 2018 (UTC) This was a useful article until the list was slashed. I also see that many editors mentioned the policy to you. Retimuko ( talk ) 19:11, (UTC) They are merely of aggregator of information from the various exchanges. Read our unbiased review to know how these fraudsters lure you in to their platform and then make money at your expense. 4 is being used solely to source the block height the currency was forked at, and so is a perfectly valid source for this according to wikipedia policy." - According to the policy you cite, the source 4 would. These mentioned coins should be in this list as well. Jej adresa má obvykle podobn formát. Low, this article has been rated.
Edit: for simplicity, coimarketcap could be a good place to reference to too. Fresheneesz ( talk ) 04:15, 11 December 2018 (UTC) Your reversions of my edits on "List of bitcoin forks" edit Copied from my personal talk page at the request of Fresheneesz. They do not even talk about the aspects of trading such as risk diversification methods and dollar cost averaging. C933103 ( talk ) 22:50, 25 November 2018 (UTC) For sure we don't do this external links for reasons of anti-seo policy. Easy money is non-existent and without having skills making money trading is just a dream. Retimuko ( talk ) 19:47, (UTC) I gave two sources, which both support each other in their content, which gives credence to both. I don't need schooling about. And you can get this by using the same keys as in the BTC Chain, sounds familiar? Moved 'Clam' from 'Not Forks also poorly named) to the same section as it also utilized a copy of the utxo. Ladislav Mecir ( talk ) 21:08, 2 December 2018 (UTC) I didn't make two reverts.
" Jimmy Song has had work published by third-party publications. " note that the reliability must be provable, it does not suffice if the source claims it is reliable " Please point me to the line of wikipedia policy that says that the reliability must be provable, and how it needs to be proven. Also, While in some cases exchanges could have relations with particular forks, the problem can be purged by excluding these sources on a fork-by-fork basis, and also by including only notable or large exchanges as a measure for forks' notability. What are you trying to pull? Ladislav Mecir ( talk ) 11:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC) Agree with Ladislav, please dont add unecessary redlinks. Your edit # reverted the deletion of Bitcoin Diamond text made by Primefac in his edit #. Are you trying to tell me that Business Insider is link spam, for example?
Retimuko appears to have gone on a little bit of a freakish power and control trip here, and I can't fathom. Just like this is about something bitcoin diamond's developers did. What are the two best sources there? What do we know about them? Retimuko ( talk ) 21:05, (UTC) How about you try to find sources for things before deleting content? If its self published, we can use it for this information about themselves." - The problem is, that your claim about the block height is not a claim about the source (the author or the web page). Ve stnu tchto otázek a rodcch se pochybnost se pak bitcoin snadno jev jako pefouklá bublina, která by v zájmu vech mla co nejrychleji prasknout. Ladislav Mecir ( talk ) 16:11, 21 November 2018 (UTC) Ok I'm going to take this one step at a time. The strategy they follow is not mentioned and there isnt any verifiable trading history featured by them. This is a basic requirement of Wikipedia.
So why did you remove all the content I added? They hold the exact amount of coins at the same adresses as the source. Fresheneesz ( talk ) 04:26, 11 December 2018 (UTC) I find it hard to believe that you don't see the reasons why m and the like are not independent reliable sources. Also on Bitcore's website they say "Not a fork!". I already claimed many of these coins and here are even more of them Masr ( talk ) 18:23, (UTC) This was a very useful article with relevant information, please revert to the full list and if you. Artix Kreiger ( talk ) 23:14, 8 February 2018 (UTC) The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. So I don' understand why you are removing that every time. Ladislav Mecir ( talk ) 08:41, 24 November 2018 (UTC) "not to confirm that the author is the best writer in the world" There's a problem with your objection - its a straw man.
Often it is not clear if they are fan clubs or blogs or emerging news outlets with no reputation at all and unknown editorial practices. 07:05, (UTC) Preceding unsigned comment added by ( talk ) I renamed the section back to utxo Forks. There are a lot of testimonies on their website but they all appear to be cherry picked. License and Contact Details, in simple terms this platform is an ICO which means they raise money from a group of retail clients for trading and in return the investors are promised certain amount of returns along with their initial deposit. Affiliate Program, all ponzi schemes success depends upon the number of participants they are able to convince to join their firm. Though this website is few months old there isnt any information about them on m and m, also we are not able to pinpoint the regions they are targeting or are currently getting the traffic from.
Org faq page contains the text: "With lower transaction fees than any credit card, better exchange rates than any government backed currency, and faster transaction confirmations than other digital payments, Bitcoin Diamond is the internets native currency." The. Could you comment on whether you think any of those sources are reliable and give credence to reliability? WikiProject Computing, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of computers, computing, and information technology on Wikipedia. I thought i'd rename the section to "Not Bitcoin forks". There is no practical way to "purge the problem". Creativecuriosity 04:03, (UTC) We should consider sources according to WP:RS, which also discusses bias (reliable doesn't mean unbiased). Jene jak na norovém americkém senátnm slyen nastnil éf tamn komise pro cenné papry Christopher Giancarlo, kryptomny pináej vrazn technologick pokrok, kter se jen tak nezastav. We have confirmed through FCA, this firm is not overseen by them which means criminal prosecution awaits for the people running this firm. WikiProject Cryptocurrency, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of cryptocurrency on Wikipedia. Sure glad I read it a few days ago so I could learn about the other forks.